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                              You know about the traffic in this city, of course, everybody knows about
                        it. And, so what do politicians do in a case like that. I’m thinking of local
                        municipal politicians in our country and in your country. Maybe some others
                        evolve as well. But if you offer to just build your way out of the problem by
                        making more freeways, more expressways, more roadways for cars, that
                        produces one solution. If you take what I think for a very good ecological
                        reason. It’s been well established and you take an approach that favors public
                        transit, and walking, and bicycling and so on. You get a different kind of set of
                        responses from politicians, but people do not vote for people who want to cut
                        back on cars if they are car drivers. They have to think, hah! how do I get
                        increased moderation?  How do I increase immunity and not being car
                        dependent? as what planners call it. How do I get out of dependence on cars?
                        Even though, I know, I personally like to use my car, and in fact, you have to,
                        in a city like this if you have. You have kids who you take to day care, then
                        you get to school, and then you go to work and so on.  This is very hard to
                        use public transit.


                              I think Bangkok is doing a great job. I say in comparison to many other
                        cities, certainly, in North America. But there will be more done unless we have
                        politicians who say “Vote for me because I’m going to help you do less, or
                        else, we are in deep trouble.” And, they are doing less than that, an urban, for
                        example, I’ve just given you the urban transit versus urban car growth. Grow
                        by growth, for example. It’s not just a matter of what the attitudes are of the
                        individual. That’s not good enough. If I have to take the bus myself because all
                        I’m doing is cutting somebody else off when the bus passes by. I got to be
                        taking an active political role, which is a democratic function, of course, and
                        saying let’s vote for people who are going to build more public transit, more
                        bikeways. Make it safer for pedestrians. Last night I tried to go and I couldn’t
                        cross the street, because it’s very dangerous. Just crossed the street to where
                        I was staying. We have to think about ways to change the way we’re doing
                        things, not just in our individual activities and habits, but the kinds of people
                        that we elect to be the decision makers on our behalf.
                              So, I think sufficiency economy is the solution in this day and age when
                        the welfare states have… It’s not that they have run the course. I love my
                        welfare state or every Canadian that I know likes the fact that we have
                        medical care.  We like that fact, but we can’t have it if we don’t figure ways
                        to do things differently than we have done, because, so far, we have been
                        growth dependent, not just car dependent. We’ve got to think of different ways                  0QFOJOH LFZOPUF BEESFTT
                        in doing things.  So, sufficiency economy philosophy forces these elements that
                        if you apply them to democracy will lead to a healthier outcomes for the
                        society overall.
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